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[FW-1] Streaming QuickTime (both clients and server)

Subject: [FW-1] Streaming QuickTime (both clients and server)
From: "Perbix, Michael" <PERBIX AT LMSD DOT ORG>
To: FW-1-MAILINGLIST AT AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT DOT COM
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:58:29 -0400
Okay, I have been on the phone with Checkpoint support, as well as tried 
various combinations of rules allowing known QuickTime ports....and I have NOT 
been able to get QuickTime to work using port 554 (RTSP).  HTTP works for me 
since I do not have the proxy, but the authenticated proxy we use for our 
machines causes THAT to be a problem, since NO Apple Apps handle proxies well 
(authenticated proxies make it even worse).  For instance AppleWorks totally 
does not see the proxy exceptions to make the clipart and web based templates 
work...a real problem which I addressed at WWDC during some talkback forums.
ANYWAYS

DOES ANYONE have QuickTime clients working via rules in a CHECKPONT Firewall NG 
(FP 1) on Windows 2000 Server scenario for both clients in a hidden NAT 
network, or a server within your DMZ (using real IP address) for internet 
clients?

Everything works on port 80 as that is what it is designed for....but that is 
not what I want....

I know this is a firewall issue, as I see traffic returning to my network and 
being dropped by my any/firewall/any/drop rule..I have RealAudio and Windows 
Media Player working with rules since we know ANY doesn't ALWAYS mean ANY per 
Checkpoint documentation...

The firewall is thinking the server response is not a return communication from 
a client but an un-initiated communication which is being dropped.  I know what 
ports are being used, so please unless you have this working in this scenario 
or feel you have relevant information on making this work in this 
scenario...please do not respond with the basic info or Apple's or Checkpoints 
knowledgebase stuff...or QuickTime help pages as I have scoured all that and , 
although there is other good info, there is nothing that works for me.

I have seen (using a packet sniffer) that the return packets are using the 
SOURCE port 6970, and I have tried creating objects to accommodate this...with 
no luck...outgoing communication is working but (when trying to view the WWDC 
Keynote) the UDP communication comming back is being dropped.  I can see this 
repeatedly in the firewall logs.  The source is Apple's network, the 
destination is my firewall, not the end client, which is why the packets are 
being dropped.

Thank you for any information that can be had....if I find out what is going, I 
will post the info here....I am also making this plea (as I have times before) 
on the checkpoint list.....

Thank you again

    -Mike

_________________________________________
Michael Perbix
Lower Merion School District
Telecommunications Specialist
(610) 645-1964 phone
(610) 896-2019 fax

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