Firewall-1

Re: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK

Subject: Re: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK
From: Girard Moussa <gmoussa AT LIBERTY.COM DOT AU>
To: FW-1-MAILINGLIST AT AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT DOT COM
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:15:59 +1000
Well,

To answer  your question,  if there are on the same LAN segment and do not pass 
through a firewall as their gateway, then file transfer cannot be blocked. Why 
would you want to block file transfer internally between users? They can easily 
share files over the network or via email.

Now as for being able to transfer files with outside users, well, the new 
versions of MSN don't even need MSN transfer protocols or any proprietary 
protocols. They now tunnel over http and even if you have a proxy in place, MSN 
will pick up the settings from IE and tunnel over the proxy. The only way to 
block MSN Messenger is at the proxy level if it is aware of MSN Messenger or at 
the firewall level via Smartdefense. However, Smartdefense will stop all MSN 
related traffic altogether and users would not be even able to log on to MSN, 
let alone transfer files.

Girard Moussa




-----Original Message-----
From: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1 [mailto:FW-1-MAILINGLIST AT 
AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT DOT COM] On Behalf Of Mihai Lupu
Sent: Friday, 27 August 2004 3:12 PM
To: FW-1-MAILINGLIST AT AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT DOT COM
Subject: Re: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK


Hello,
Now when I read your message I think that I remember something like the MSN 
files transfer don't involve MSN servers, but only the two PC (sender and 
destination); when they are in the same network it is obvious that this doesn't 
pass through your FW.


Mihai

-----Original Message-----
From: Mateo Cabrera [mailto:mcabrera AT SADVISOR DOT COM]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 22:27
To: FW-1-MAILINGLIST AT AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT DOT COM
Subject: Re: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK

ok, thanks to all.

But my question was because i did try to send a file from one MSN client to 
other.

I did configure a rule permitting all services except MSN_File_Transfer and the 
transferense did continue work fine.

The problem was that both MSN clients was in a same internal network, and 
somebody told me that the communication between 2 MSN clients in a same LAN is 
bypassed by the FW in a second instance. (I don´t know if it´s real)


Saludos,
Mateo Cabrera - Soporte Técnico
Security Advisor
www.sadvisor.com


-----Mensaje original-----
De: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1 [mailto:FW-1-MAILINGLIST AT 
AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT DOT COM]En nombre de Mihai Lupu Enviado el: jueves, 26 de 
agosto de 2004 15:22
Para: FW-1-MAILINGLIST AT AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT DOT COM
Asunto: Re: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK


Hi!
The NG-AI version of FW-1 knows well the different protocols of MSN, Yahoo and 
ICQ (video, file transfer and chat) so you can allow only the protocol that you 
want. I use myself this and is OK, I want to allow only chat but anything else 
not (like file transfer or video); this stuff could be dangerous (file 
transfer) or resources consuming (video) Mihai


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Mateo Cabrera [mailto:mcabrera AT SADVISOR DOT COM]
        Sent: Thu 26-Aug-04 19:19
        To: FW-1-MAILINGLIST AT AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT DOT COM
        Cc:
        Subject: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK



        HEY GUYs....!!!

        Me and other companion on this forum (jon Allingham) we have a problem 
to
        block the IM File Transfer using SmartDefense.
        Somebody know how to configure the FW-1 or SmartDefense to use the MSN 
but
        do not to block the File Trafnsfers function of MSN?
        Thanks a lot.


        Saludos,
        Mateo Cabrera - Soporte Tecnico
        Security Advisor
        www.sadvisor.com

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