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Re: [FW-1] Please help: Checkpoint on Nokia IP platform or SPLAT?

Subject: Re: [FW-1] Please help: Checkpoint on Nokia IP platform or SPLAT?
From: "Jarmoc, Jeff" <Jeff.Jarmoc AT GRUBB-ELLIS DOT COM>
To: FW-1-MAILINGLIST AT AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT DOT COM
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:59:58 -0600
"SPLAT can do RIP-2, OSPF and BGP via zebra just as good as IPSO."

This is the only point I'm not completely in agreement with.  Having
myself been testing OSPF on SPLAT, I've found a few problems.  It works
well enough, until you try to add in multipath routes.  Apparently the
linux kernel in SPLAT was not compiled with multipath support.

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Subject: [FW-1] Please help: Checkpoint on Nokia IP platform or SPLAT?

All,



I am helping out a former colleague of mine who is a security consultant

(I used to be a former security consultant myself) with a dilemma.



This security consultant is in charged of designing and implementing

firewall solutions for an enterprise customer (about 2,000 end-users)

spanning between the US, Europe and Asia, with the US is the headquarter

and remote offices in Europe and Asia.  The customer has already

decided to go with Checkpoint Firewall-1 as its choice of firewall over

other vendors such as Netscreen and Cisco Pix.



The customer now as the security consultant for the recommendation

of the hardware platform that will run Checkpoint Firewall-1.  To make

this thing a little more complicated, the customer will have VPNs from

these remote offices back to the US and with each other.  They have

SIP and VoIP applications that will traverse the VPN tunnels.  Firewalls

at each locations will functions both as VPNs and Perimeter firewall.

The headquarter has two DS-3 (45Mbps) pipes while each remote offices

has dedicate T-1 and ISDN backup.



The customer would like to be able to do this in September/October 2005

timeframe.  Currently, they have Pix firewalls and watchguard at various

locations.  They like checkpoint for centralize logging and management.



The security consultant can recommend the customer the option of running

Checkpoint Firewall-1/VPN on either Nokia IP platforms or Checkpoint

Secureplatform.  He is more familiar with Nokia IP platform but the
customer

would like to be able to take advantage of the of next release of
Checkpoint

(dallas) for their implementation in October.



The problem the security consultant runs into is that the next IPSO that
will

support "dallas" will not be ready until the end of this year and
"dallas" will

be officially released in June (he thinks).  If he decides to go with
Nokia

IP platform, he will not be able to meet the target date.  He needs time
to test

"dallas" on IPSO prior to implementing it.



The security consultant asks for my advice.  I told him to go with
Checkpoint

SPLAT for the following:



1)       They can use existing hardware currently available in the
inventory to build

the enforcement module.  SPLAT runs great on both IBM and Compaq
hardware.

Furthermore, you can perform RAID 1 on the hardware to provide
redundancies

at the hardware level.  Originally, they are looking at Nokia
IP350/IP380 which does

not have built-in harddrive RAID redundancy.  The customer has bulk load
of IBM

and Compaq DL380 Servers.



2)       Dual CPU supports on SPLAT which doesn't yet support on Nokia
IP platforms

(may be with the exception of IP1260 or IP2250).



3)       Hardware Inventories readily available on-site.  The
Enforcement Modules can be

rebuit in less than 10 minutes.



4)       Checkpoint ClusterXL can provide Active/Standby or
Active/Active Solution at

headquarter.  I know Nokia VRRP and IPSO Clustering is FREE but the
ClusterXL cost

can be offset with the hardware (i.e. IBM or Compaq Servers) that the
customer already owns.

5)       When running Checkpoint on Nokia IP platform, Nokia is always a
few revisions

behind checkpoint.  There will always be "blame game" going on when
things are not

working right.  When running SPLAT, checkpoint will be responsible for
everything

with the exception of the hardware.  There will not be any finger
pointing other than

Checkpoint.



6)       SPLAT can do RIP-2, OSPF and BGP via zebra just as good as
IPSO.



Can anyone share his/her experiences, good or bad, with firewalls
deployment on

both Nokia IP platforms and/or SPLAT?  My past and current experiences
with Nokia,

obviously, are not very pretty.  Each time I call them with an issue,
their typical response usally

is "upgrade" or "it's a checkpoint issue".



Please share your knowledge.



Thanks.



cisco4ng



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