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Re: [FW-1] IPSec VPN issue between Checkpoint and Juniper/NetScreen

Subject: Re: [FW-1] IPSec VPN issue between Checkpoint and Juniper/NetScreen
From: cisco4ng <cisco4ng AT YAHOO DOT COM>
To: FW-1-MAILINGLIST AT AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT DOT COM
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:09:50 -0700
Hi Jason,
  I know exactly what you're referring in NGx.
   
  Well, if I take away the Juniper/NetScreen and place a cisco IOS or Pix 
device, 
  VPN will work just fine.  The issue seems to be a problem between Juniper and
  Checkpoint. I even tried to usd dbedit to modify the 
use_ike_largest_possible_subnet
  to false and modified the user.def as well.  No luck.  Uncheked "exchange key 
  for subnet" did not solve the issue either.
   
  I upgraded Checkpoint to NGx.  Same issues with Netscreen.  No issues with
  Cisco IOS, VPNc and Pix.
   
  It is a pain in the ass when dealing with VPN between vendors but that's why 
all 
  of us are working and getting paid well for it.
   
  cisco4ng
   
  

chkp tech <chkptech AT GMAIL DOT COM> wrote:
  Greetings,

These types of problems tend to be a configuration issue on the Check Point
side for the older releases. We won't get into how Check Point didn't
follow the RFC, and no one else does subnet super netting in Phase II. I'm
just saying from the Check Point's side it's doing what it's always done
between any VPN tunnel. It doesn't matter whether it's a Cisco, Juniper, or
Nortel. This "feature" also been fixed in NGX so that you can explicitly
set the phase two subnets for the tunnel.

A little off topic, but the Juniper firewalls like to do route based VPNs
and the NGX boxes can be setup to use a route based VPN to save some of the
overhead on the Check Point enforcement module.

Jason


On 8/31/06, cisco4ng wrote:
>
> I have a story that I thought I want to share with
> everyone so that next time when anyone run into a similar
> situation, it will save you time. Here we go.
>
> scenario:
>
> SiteA: Checkpoint NG with AI R55w haf-04 or NG FP3 hfa_327
> running on Nokia IPSO 3.7.1
> local encryption domain: 192.168.1.0/24
> remote encryption domain: 10.29.10.29/32
> local VPN endpoint: Nokia External interface 4.2.2.2
> phase I & II: aes-256/sha/DH-5
> Phase I timeout: 86400 seconds
> phasw II timeout: 3600 seconds
>
> siteB: Juniper/Netscreen firewall
> local encryption domain: 10.29.10.29/32
> remote encryption domain: 192.168.1.0/24
> local VPN endpoint: Nokia External interface 199.0.216.222
> phase I & II: aes-256/sha/DH-5
> Phase I timeout: 86400 seconds
> phasw II timeout: 3600 seconds
>
> VPN tunnel comes up. 10.29.10.29/32 can ping 192.168.1.0/24
> but network 192.168.1.0/24 can not ping 10.29.10.29. In
> other words, one-way VPN.
>
> Upon looking the debug ike.elg file in checkpoint, I found that
> during the phase II negotiation (Quick Mode), Netscreen properly
> sends its local and remote encryption domain to checkpoint so the
> vpn is fine coming from Netscreen. However, whenever traffics
> initiated from Checkpoint side, checkpoint sends /32 of its
> local encryption domain to Netscreen. For example, let say
> host 192.168.1.10 ping 10.29.10.29, checkpoint will renegotiate
> Quick Mode of /32. In other words, it sends /32 to Netscreen.
> VPN failed whenever traffics initiates from Checkpoint side.
>
> I can see the problem very clearly in the ike.elg file. By the
> way, the ike.elg file can be viewed with the IKEView.exe file.
> the work around is to add /32 hosts in the remote encryption
> domain on the Netscreen side and VPN will work bi-directional.
>
> Hopefully, this will save people time and headache when you run into VPN
> issues between Checkpoint and Juniper/NetScreen.
>
> cisco4ng
>
>
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