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Re: [fw-wiz] Cisco ASA and FWSM

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Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] Cisco ASA and FWSM
From: Timo Schoeler <timo.schoeler@riscworks.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:34:51 +0200
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 14:23:43 -0700
D Sharp <drsharp@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Hi;
> 
> We have a Internet Portal inplace for some 2+ years based on a
> redundant set of 6500 switches with sup720s, IDS-SM, NAM, FWSM,
> switch blades. We also use the FWSM to create isolated non-production
> developement/test/QA areas. We also have PIX and ASA firewalls.
> 
> Would we use FWSM again, not likely. We spent a great deal of time 
> finding a stable version of software for both  SUP720 and FWSM. The 
> problems we have experienced may no longer exist in current code
> releases.
> 
> But the FWSM is very compelling, yet it has to meet your
> requirements. You asked for a comparision, and as others have
> responded with some points. These are more on the design.
> 
> Chassis versus standalone:
>     FWSM 'interface' is a set of virtual gigabit intfs. bound into a 
> single GEC (gigabit ether channel). Packets are 'load balanced' over 
> these. You work with vlans, not interfaces.
>     ASA top model supports (8) gig interfaces, but ether channel
> still does not appear to be supported. Not a big deal as the top ASA
> only supports up to 1.2gbs throughput.

yeah, and for the ASA-5520 (e.g.) they share one single interrupt.
worst hardware design ever.

>     FWSM uses the shared bus of the chassis, not the switched bus.
> Thus the SUP32 and SUP720 modules are supported.
>     Or less desireable, as your switched bus cards still have to send 
> traffic over the shared bus for the FWSM.
>     With externally connected firewalls, you save a chassis slot for 
> another (48) port switch card, or some other special purpose module.
> 
>     There is another interesting design "feature" of the FWSM, it
> uses ONE MAC address per module. Thus all interfaces, layer 3, across
> all virtual firewalls share this MAC. This precludes some designs
> that would share a vlan.
> 
> Capabilities, there are dozens of comparison points, my top 5 are:
>     FWSM vs ASA5500
> 1: FWSM 5gbs over ASA 1.2gbs
> 2: flexible vlans, FWSM over ASA.
> 3: FWSM support for more ACLs, vlans, connections over ASA.
> 4: ASA for VPNs, not possible with FWSM.
> 5: ASA uses (8) network ports versus the FWSM usage of a slot.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Yours,
> Duncan Sharp
> 
> Security Guy wrote:
> 
> >As Avishai said, the FWSM is just a firewall, no VPN or IDS support
> >at all (those are different modules ;)
> >
> >If you can do without the features, you still have to consider cost:
> >the last time I looked at FWSMs they were in the 20k USD range..
> >
> >The main thing you get with FWSM is performance (supposedly about
> >6gb/s limited by the 6-gb etherchannel it takes from the backplane)
> >tied directly to your core switch/router, if that's what you're
> >looking for.
> >
> >
> >On 4/12/07, Kimberly Fields <kimberlymfields@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Can anyone tell me what, if any, are the differences between the
> >>Cisco ASA firewall features and the Cisco FWSM firewall features?
> >>
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