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Re: Interesting article about punching holes in firewalls...

To: Martijn Lievaart <m@rtij.nl>
Subject: Re: Interesting article about punching holes in firewalls...
From: Cedric Blancher <blancher@cartel-securite.fr>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:42:11 +0100
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Le mardi 19 décembre 2006 à 19:53 +0100, Martijn Lievaart a écrit :
> ICMP filtering is not tricky. Just remember the rules.
> 1) NEVER, EVER, EVER filter out fragmentation needed.

;)

> 2) You may filter out ping, and the various destination unreachables, 
> the consequences are yours.

Actually, Fragmentation Needed is one of various Destination Unreachable
message... Type 3, code 4.

> 3) Everything else can be filtered without consequences.

Time Exceeded ?

> If you mean, it is hard for a firewall to filter malicious ICMPs but not 
> beneign ICMPs, the we agree. 

That was my point.

> I have not heard of an fragmentation needed attack yet, but I can
> imagine it happening (analogous to the zero windowsize attack).

You can use Frag Needed to degrade performances. See section 7 of:

http://www.gont.com.ar/drafts/icmp-attacks/draft-ietf-tcpm-icmp-attacks-01.txt

You can also use Source Quench.


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