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RE: Advanced tricks I use to get rid of spam using MX 4xx [X200611276963

To: "Jason Frisvold" <xenophage0@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Advanced tricks I use to get rid of spam using MX 4xx [X200611276963]
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Frisvold [mailto:xenophage0@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:33 PM
To: Marc Perkel
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Subject: Re: Advanced tricks I use to get rid of spam using MX 4xx

On 11/27/06, Marc Perkel <marc@perkel.com> wrote:
>  No - on my system a 4xx error only means that that particular server isn't
> ready. It means try the other servers or come back later. It certianly dos
> not mean that all the servers aren't ready. That's what I use EXIM and not
> Qmail. All other MTAs except Qmail behave this way. it's what the spec says.
> Qmail does it wrong.

Hrm..  I find this interesting and slightly disturbing.  Can you
please provide the spec and highlight the passage which identifies
this behavior as correct?

I'm not sure I like the idea of a mail server immediately trying
another MX if the initial one it contacted was busy.  This just
creates additional load on the other MXs and can cause additional
meltdown.  I believe the "correct" way for this to work is to queue
the message when a 4XX is received and retry later.  When later
arrives, the MX lookup is repeated and at that point it's possible
that an alternative server is chosen.

-- 
Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
XenoPhage0@gmail.com



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