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Re: sbl-xbl going away; zen replacing it

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Subject: Re: sbl-xbl going away; zen replacing it
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:32:02 -0500 (EST)
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Japheth J.C. Cleaver wrote:

> Russ Nelson wrote:
> > Spamhaus's sbl-xbl is going away.   Zen replacing it:
> >
> > http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/
> >
>
>
> Here's my problem:
> -----------------
> Per the site:
>
> Caution: zen.spamhaus.org replaces sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org.
> If you are currently using sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org you can now replace
> 'sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org' with 'zen.spamhaus.org' (the sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
> zone will eventually become obsolete and may in the future be withdrawn
> from service).
>
> Caution: Because ZEN includes the XBL and PBL lists, do not use ZEN on
> smarthosts or SMTP AUTH outbound servers for your own customers (or you
> risk blocking your own customers). Do not use ZEN in filters that do any
> ‘deep parsing’ of Received headers, or for other than checking IP
> addresses that hand off to your mailservers.
>
> ------------------
>
> So... what about those of us that *are* using sbl-xbl in either
> SpamAssassin-type rulesets (aka 'deep parsing'), or who do want top have
> SBL/XBL protection on our smarthosts and outbound smtp-auth'd customer
> servers (to prevent IPs infected with Outlook-setting-hijacking viruses
> from doing too much damage)?

Wouldn't a user the authenticates via SMTP unset the RBLSMTPD variable,
just like it does with vpopmail type POP before SMTP authentication?

Or would they be prevented from authenticating by rblsmtpd in the first
place?

James Smallacombe                     PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor
up@3.am                                                     http://3.am
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