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RE: CISSP

To: "Nick Besant" <lists@hwf.cc>, <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
Subject: RE: CISSP
From: "Angelacci, Anna M CTR SPAWAR, J616" <anna.angelacci@navy.mil>
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:08:53 -0500
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Noe the education, the certs, the experience, all in one makes you
qualified. Why cry about it when you could be reaching for all the
above? 

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Subject: Re: CISSP


I think it's a worthwhile qualification to have if only from the point 
of view of structured learning.  Unless you've already done a CS or 
equivalent degree, it's unlikely that you'll have covered some of the 
architectural or formal methodologies, practices, standards etc that you

must know to take the CISSP exam.  On-the-job learning is an excellent 
(I'm biased) way to learn all things security but you only tend to 
learn  the technologies etc around the environments you're working with.

I found the learning process, while covering some out-of-date material 
that I'm unlikely to use in future, did cover some additional areas 
which I've since applied to projects to my / my employer's benefit.

So; in summary, I would recommend it if you're looking for a broader 
certification/career path/etc focusing on security.  The breadth (not 
really the depth) of the body of knowledge has provided me with a way to

cement together everything I've learned through working on or personal 
research.   YMMV :)


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Nick Besant (lists@hwf.cc)



dfullerton@mantor.org wrote:
> Then I wonder if this certification should really have this kind of 
> notoriety. Looks like it's not technical and if an 11 years old boy 
> can complete this cert ...it's not about security management 
> experience either.
>
> Anyone can give me some good reason to acquire CISSP while not being 
> related to money and the wannabe marketing-made notoriety?
>
> Personally I done GCIH and GHTQ, the latest is harder and really 
> related to penetration testing. I would like some GOOD reason for 
> someone in the security field for a while and having others, more in 
> deep, technical certification to go on with CISSP.
>
> Should we glorify such things? Tell me more about the exam, the topics

> are quite general and may not be totally in line with the exam and the

> real knowledge being certified.
>
> Danny Fullerton
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> IT Security Specialist, GCIH GHTQ http://www.mantor.org/~northox
> Mantor Organization
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