| To: | Ben Greenberg <Ben.Greenberg@senet-int.com>, pen-test@securityfocus.com |
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| Subject: | Re: Brute-forcing cached Windows login password hashes |
| From: | Carl Livitt <carllivitt@yahoo.com> |
| Date: | Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:39:00 -0700 |
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The hash algorithm is a salted MD4. It's impossible (ok, to be pedantic it's mathematically infeasible) to use rainbow tables because of the salting, so that leaves you with dictionary and brute-force. The latest version of John and the MS Cache Hash patches are all available from http://openwall.com/john/. I believe v1.7.2 is the latest version. Regards, Carl Ben Greenberg wrote: > Greetings all, > > My question is regarding the encrypted password hashes that Windows stores in > the registry of the last 10 logins to a workstation. > > I read the original white paper written by Arnaud Pilon and I've used his > cachedump tool to extract the password hashes from the registry. What I'm > wondering is what type of hash those passwords use. Is it straight MD4? I > know that each hash is salted with a machine-specific unique string. What I > am unclear on is what exactly the password hash is and how it can be > brute-forced. I know that there is a patch for John the Ripper, but every > mention I can find refers to a two year old version of John. Does anyone know > if the most recent version has this patch in it already? Also, is anyone > familiar with any rainbow tables for cracking these passwords? Are rainbow > tables possible for these hashes because of the salting? > > Thanks all. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is sponsored by: Cenzic > > Need to secure your web apps NOW? > Cenzic finds more, "real" vulnerabilities fast. > Click to try it, buy it or download a solution FREE today! > > http://www.cenzic.com/downloads > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This list is sponsored by: Cenzic Need to secure your web apps NOW? Cenzic finds more, "real" vulnerabilities fast. Click to try it, buy it or download a solution FREE today! http://www.cenzic.com/downloads ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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