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Re: Basic facilities required to establish a pen test lab

To: scott <redhowlingwolves@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Basic facilities required to establish a pen test lab
From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:13:08 +1000
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did someone mention VMare?

On 7/30/07, scott <redhowlingwolves@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
> Surely you can pull a few boxes together,install different OS'es on each
> box,install the same version of apps that the servers you're testing are
> running,trying to make sure that the processors are the same,or very
> closely related.
>
> The one thing that has stung me in the past was Apache on
> Windows.I,foolishly, assumed it was a *nix variant!Blind test,of
> course.So why were scans leaning to an OS called Microsoft?Bad recon.
> Everything you can do before and after the recon("You did do
> this,right?") matters for how you make up your lab for that specific
> pen-test.That's my personal method.
>
> IMHO.
>
>
>
>
> Shenk, Jerry A wrote:
> > I on the otherhand test exploits in my lab all the time.  I find it very
> > useful to have a number of machines set up with a variety of operating
> > systems.  I find that by testing exploits in the lab, prior to
> > attempting them on-site I know better what results to expect.  One of my
> > goals in pen-testing is to avoid "blowing up" production boxes.  By
> > testing exploits in the lab, I can have a pretty good idea what the
> > results will be.  I also try to avoid getting caught. It mimics an
> > experienced attacker better to avoid making an insane amount of noise so
> > if I can find an exploit that will allow me to make a quick clean
> > attack, I find that going through that in the lab first allows me to do
> > better on the live test.  ....people never watch their logs anyway so
> > being stealthy isn't normally that big a deal;)
> >
> > Lot of people use VMware or similar platforms for this and I do also, to
> > a degree.  I most often find myself using a number of old servers
> > (Compaq & "Intel Whitebox servers) with a variety of drives in hot-swap
> > trays that I swap in for a particular OS version and patch level.  I
> > don't really use the "hot-swap" feature to swap drives without rebooting
> > but it is handy to be able to just pull a drive out and stick another
> > one in.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listbounce@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com]
> > On Behalf Of Jan Heisterkamp
> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:29 AM
> > To: Gubir
> > Cc: pen-test@securityfocus.com
> > Subject: Re: Basic facilities required to establish a pen test lab
> >
> > Gubir schrieb:
> >
> >> I am CEH. But still I need some suggestion from you guys to setup a
> >>
> > pen test
> >
> >> lab. Please give me some guidance about the basic essential hardware
> >>
> > and
> >
> >> software to make a good pen test lab
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > A pent test lab; what could this be?
> > Definition of laboratory: A laboratory (often abbreviated lab) is a
> > place where scientific research and experiments are conducted. A lab can
> >
> > hold space for one to thirty, or more, researchers depending on the size
> >
> > of the room and state mandated maximum occupancy limit.
> >
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