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Re: Looking to set up an infosec lab

To: "John M. Martinelli" <john@martinelli.com>, pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Looking to set up an infosec lab
From: Bill Stout <billbrietstout@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:24:06 -0700 (PDT)
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You're on the right track with VMware for the majority of the tests. You might 
also investigate Xen for both Windows and Linux, I haven't tried Xen. I would 
consider: XP Home, XP Pro, W2K Pro, W2K Svr, W2K3, W2K3 X64 (exchange 2007), 
Vista (basic, premium, ultimate, business). VMware will let you scale and 
snapshot, you can create base images which support a full test matrix; 
OS/SPx/App Suite/Defense. In other words, build an XP home image and make 
multiple copies of it, so each image can have it's own patch. Then make copies 
of each patch image so each can have it's own Application Suite. Then make 
copies of each App Suite image so you can load different defensive software. 
Also consider creating a VMware 'Team' so you can test different Active 
Directory combinations and Group Policy changes. 

VMware can also host Linux/FreeBSD, so you can test an OS, with a default 
package set (workstation, developer, server), so again, make an image of an OS 
with a package set, then a patch level, then Applications, then defenses. This 
helps create another test matrix with a minimal number of hardware boxes. 

Notice I mentioned test matrix. You'll end up with a spreadsheet with rows of 
tests, and columns for the OS/Patch, and another dimension of pages for the 
applications/defenses installed. _IF_ any of the testing will be formal. 

You will either need a server with a TB or so to store the images and GigE to 
copy those images to workstations running VMware Workstation ($200) or Server 
(free). You'll also need to keep a few network hubs (not switches) on hand for 
sniffing, hardware firewalls, attack source machines, etc. And keep this 
network separate from other networks. Isolate this from all other networks if 
you'll test any viruses/worms/malware, restrict access, and destroy any media 
that leaves the room. If you don't test malware, consider giving the test 
network it's own DSL feed since some machines may become vectors to attack 
production machines. 

Bill Stout 


----- Original Message ---- 
From: John M. Martinelli <john@martinelli.com> 
To: pen-test@securityfocus.com 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:40:13 PM 
Subject: Looking to set up an infosec lab 


Hi, list. 

A few of the previous e-mails going out on the mailing list got my 
attention - I'm interested in building a moderate hacklab to conduct 
mock attacks, intrusion detection, detection evasion, etcetera. My 
hardware situation allows me to deploy a VMware or Parallels lab - 
what kind of machines would you set up in my situation? 

I plan on having a few Windows machines - perhaps a '98 box, a 2000 
box, and an XP box. As far as Linux, I'd like to set up a Zoot 
(RedHat 6.2) and BSD box, but beyond that I'm asking for advice. 
Which flavors would you put up for conducting general vulnerability 
testing? 

Thanks, 
John Martinelli 
RedLevel.org Security 

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